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Hmm, I was looking at the lyrics for MMMBOP and I think they oddly work for Dean and Sam. OR MAYBE I'M JUST READING TOO MUCH INTO IT. ANYWAY.

I AM HAVING THOUGHTS.

Which, correct me if I'm wrong, but was supposed to originally be episode six? Did they flip those? Or was it four and five? Or six and seven? IDK IDK.

So Sam is like ~schitzo~ or something? Or is he just that... devious. Because even Samuel was thrown aback this time, which, a point to that man, for once.

So Dean is like, full-throttle, back into this whole brother relationship. That's obvious to me when he says "Sammy," after he drinks the blood. So much concern and need in that word. And before that, when he asks, "When's the last time we had a beer together?"

Here's my thing. What if Sam didn't answer that question because he doesn't know? Has Sam mentioned ANYTHING about their life before, other than details he could've gleaned from elsewhere? Mary, John, YED, any of it? He hasn't? Does he even remember? Is that the part of Sam that's missing?

Just a thought.

I uh, may uh, be already writing second person vampire!Dean. Shut up.

I like how it'd take "a night's drive" to get to Lisa's, but vamp!Dean gets there and back in a disturbingly short amount of time. And it really bothers me that now Lisa won't answer his calls. CONSISTENT CHARACTERIZATION, she doesn't have it. I HAS A SAD. I like Lisa, I really do. Or I really would, if they'd just write her better. :/ I hope we see her at least once more. THEY DESERVE A GOODBYE DAMNIT.

I AM INCREDIBLY CHAGRINED AT DEAN'S "SORRY I DON'T PLAY THAT WAY, PAL." ALL MY HOPES AND DREAMS OF BISEXUAL!DEAN, LOST! Seriously, it's tragic. I swear I actually try to go and believe what canon tells us, with that one huge exception. :/// Maybe he just meant toward big scary Claudio look-alike dude. Seriously, that hair.

The ~alpha vampire's message~ or whatever: WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH CREEPY LITTLE GIRLS? The alpha vampire's gonna turn out to be Claudia, isn't it? does that make dean Lestat?. And was that Joshua? The dude from The Garden of Eden or whatever in heaven? They better go somewhere with that... And geez, Sam, be more subtle. DID YOU SEE ANYTHING? OH YOU'RE OKAY NOW DID YOU SEE ANYTHING? fuck off, man. I'm actually a little impressed how Dean manages to hold back punching him right then and there.

So what if Dean HAD bit Lisa? What then. Because it seems like being a vampire!hunter would be a good thing. He can smell humans, vampires, super-strength. It'd be like Angel without the pesky curse. Hmmm, maybe this story will get written soon...

(I tried to make this post without any Buffy references, because really. Far too obvious. But eh, what can you do.)

Also, GODDAMN I wish we could've seen Dean kicking the crap out of that entire lair more. Because the thought of him single-handedly taking out AN ENTIRE VAMPIRE LAIR, HOLYYYYYYY SHIT. *fans self* DEAN WINCHESTER: MORE BADASS THAN YOU. Also did that set look like the set from The Book of Eli or is that just me?

HENLEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY JENSEN Y U SO GODDAMN PRETTY? Also aww, look, Dean has a little bathroom kit.

LOL at the preview not really giving any of the plot for next week. It's just like SAM! DEAN! ANGER! ANGST! FIGHTING! GRRR! They know us so well.

I don't think I have anymore thoughts than that... Hmm. Loved the Twilight mocking. Was kinda hoping for a "Your skin is pale white and ice cold-" "SAY IT" Vampire!" comment, but they did pretty good without it. Yay mocking. I love that Sam's all "How do you know his name is Lautner?" when he knows that Lautner is the werewolf. Dean had a lot of good one-liners, though the fact that he knows the difference between Zefron and Beiber is doubtful. But I can totally see Sam forcing him to listen to MMMBOP at some point in their lives. (I wonder if Sam remember this. *ponders*)

In conclusion: NEEDS MOAR VAMPIRE!DEAN BECAUSE HE IS A SEXAH SEXAH BEAST.

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BOOK OF ELI, SO MUCH YES. AND SO MUCH MACHETES.

YESSSSS. So much SHARP machetes HOMG.

I like how it'd take "a night's drive" to get to Lisa's, but vamp!Dean gets there and back in a disturbingly short amount of time

AS IF YOU COULD OUTRUN HIM.

I AM INCREDIBLY CHAGRINED AT DEAN'S "SORRY I DON'T PLAY THAT WAY, PAL." ALL MY HOPES AND DREAMS OF BISEXUAL!DEAN, LOST! Seriously, it's tragic. I swear I actually try to go and believe what canon tells us, with that one huge exception. :/// Maybe he just meant toward big scary Claudio look-alike dude. Seriously, that hair.

If some creeper was hitting on me in a dark alley I would tell him I didn't swing that way either. Our hopes are not lost.

This is true! It was just to throw creepy alley man off!

The problem lies more in convincing the non-believers of this fact. :/ It was easier without canon evidence of the sort. Kinda like before the 'they do know we're brothers' episode...

WELL. If it were a NIGHT'S DRIVE, it'd still be a bit of a trip for a super-speedy vampire. RIGHT?

AND HDU, MAYBE I RUN RLY FAST.

Vamp!Dean was extremely hot. And I'm a full on Sam!girl, so that was new.

I don't know what to think about Sam anymore :( I mean...I LOVE that I have no clue, because to me the best shows are meant to keep you guessing, but damn.

I could really have gone for more Vamp!Dean, tbh.

Yeah, I know what you mean, but there comes a point when it stops being appealing that he's all ~mysterious~ and just gets...not cool, you know? Like, it looks like next week there's some answers which is good, because after he just STOOD there tonight, I was very DDD:

I loved the blatant Twilight mockery! So much, yes! As if I needed any more encouragement to love this show. ; )

Dean was very very sexy this episode. The whole time. I actually paused and replayed his angsty bathroom scene. That look he gives himself in the mirror after he washes his face the first time? Pure 100% angst.

I really need some reasons to sympathize with Sam quick, before he loses me. I'll always love him, but I'm finding it harder and harder to forgive him for what he's doing and how he's behaving. Even if there's reasons or whatever.

Supernatural is best at mocking anymore, I think.

The look he gives Sam and Sampa when he comes back from Lisa's, that 'I AM A MONSTER KILL ME' look was SEX.

I hope the next episode gives us some answers.

What was weird to me was when Sam saw the vampire giving Dean the blood and didn't stop the vampire? Or did Sam just have no clue? Lol

That's the catch. WHY did he stop, because he knew Dean could find out info about the Alpha? Or is he like...schitzo. LOL.

I know. Hmm. Either one, I guess. That's the only thing that makes sense.

Jensen was way too goddamn pretty this episode. JESUS.

I'm not sure how I feel about where they're going with Sam this season. I'll always be a Sam!girl, but even I'll admit, I audibly gasped when he just stood there and watched and smiled as his brother was turned. I really hope we get some answers next week and they don't just keep stringing us along until the hiatus.

Jensen is just way too goddamn pretty. I do like how they point out he's pretty, too. I lol'ed.

YES. Answers would be good.

I liked the episode a lot, if only for the level of angst!
But the more I think about it, the more I think that it's not Sam.. I am scared it's Lucifer who's broken out of the cage and that he has a plan!!
I mean come on, Sam no matter how hurt, or angry or traumatized, would never let Dean be turned into a vampire, let alone smile during that!

I don't think it's Lucifer, though possibly Lucifer's influence? Like, Sam spent too much time with him and doesn't have a moral compass anymore... The little smile he gave was weird though.

Aww, dude, it makes TOTAL SENSE that Lisa is not returning Dean's calls. He threw her kid into a wall - that's basically a domestic violence charge right there. If she had returned his call, I'd have lost what tiny bit of respect I have for her and just given up on her as completely spineless.

As you know, I TOO AM SAD ABOUT BISEXUAL DEAN BEING LOST. D: I saw what someone said above, though, and that is possible. And what was with the flinching at the gay kiss and the, "GAY MEN KISSING, SO WEIRD!" expressions? Could that be a kind of denial? I say yes.

And Sam is pissing me off, too. I've always defended him. I defended him in season 4 even. But at this point their reveal had better be a doozy because their relationship is basically a shadow of its former self and I'd like to know why. Especially since the show made them soul mates last season.

Well that's true. She should be totally totally angry at him. But there needs to be some resolution there, even if it is just a 'stay the fuck away from me and Ben' type thing. I'll be pissed if show never addresses her again, you know?

What he meant is that the only team he plays for is the one involving his brother. XD

I wanna respond 'what relationship' because, yeah. :/

I won't, but I can see how people would be. She's not a completely awful character. Mostly I just feel like her relationship with Dean isn't any more functional than his relationship with Sam ever was, they just happen to have the nice house and the kid for decoration. But it's being pegged as "mature" for whatever reason. And I think that's what irks me. That folks are deciding that Sam is just a byproduct of the road and Dean's somehow grown into a real relationship with Lisa. When it's the other way around IMO.

But like I said in my journal - how can I ask Lisa to liberate herself and at the same time ask Dean to shackle himself to the burned-out husk of his brother? In both cases, I think it's almost as bad as asking Bella to chain herself to Edward come hell or high water. She deserves better. As do Dean and Lisa.

And that is true about skeevy ally guy. I keep remembering Dr. Sexy and deciding THAT WAS TOTALLY REAL, OK. And Dean's siren being a man...his brother...he's Samsexual. :D

It's being pegged as 'mature'? What show are those people watching? It's completely dysfunctional, but in a way that functions, or did function okay, before Sam came along, and really, kinda was still until now, you know? He was making it work, which I suppose IS mature, but just the sheer fact of trying to have a relationship with a woman and a kid while being PTSD and all the things Dean is, is not something I would call 'mature'

Samsexual, I love it.

Oh man, so much to say about this entry.

First of all, I think you're onto something about this idea that Sam has multiple personality disorder. I was thinking the same thing last night.

Speaking as a mom (uh oh, here it comes LOL), I think Lisa was still consistent. I don't think I'd be so quick to answer the phone if somebody called me after shoving Linus. Keep in mind that Lisa has no idea that Dean was a vampire for awhile. All she sees is this guy with PTSD, who drinks a lot, showing up to be creepy and say creepy things, then shove her kid into a wall.
We'll (hopefully) get more of a resolution to this, like Lisa finally calls Dean and explains that she wasn't ready to talk to him yet. What happens after that is anybody's guess, but I think it would work better that way. Of course, that might mean it won't happen...

Dean IS bisexual, although probably not 50/50. Maybe more like 60/40 or something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith
Lilith was Adam's first wife and also theorized to be the first vampire, which is what I think they're doing with this mythology as well, since the little Lilith-type girls were vampires and in the Garden of Eden.

And now I'm thinking that maybe Adam has been wiped from everyone's memory (like a reverse Dawn thing) because the angels are really starting over and making Adam, who is actually descended from THAT Adam, father the new line that will fight the next apocalypse.
Yes, I have seen The Matrix. Why do you ask?

Dean knows who Justin Bieber and Zac Efron are because Ben has their posters taped up in his room. Dean is Ben's role model after all, so of course he'd want to be like him and start admiring men.

I'm just worried they're gonna drop Lisa from the picture now. MEH.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. LILITH + GARDEN. Makes sense, except for how they already used Lilith, bah.

Wow, that's way too complicated a plot for Supernatural.

a;lskdjflksdjf LOL IRL. I WANT TO QUOTE THIS PLACES. It's too long for a tweet. Damnit.

I had fun writing all of that, too.

I loved the mocking of Twilight and VampDean so much.

Really good episode all around.

I hadn't thought about that scene with Sam, when he didn't answer. I'm pretty much convinced that is not Sam.

I really hope they don't pull the THAT'S NOT SAM card, honestly. I mean, that would be the easiest explanation, but SO LAMEEEE you know? I really think he's just lost his moral compass, being so close to Lucifer, drinking all that demon blood. :/

Too good an opportunity NOT to use this icon. LMAO.

Some very valid points - I'm wondering if Sam's schitzo or has MPD or what because seriously, WTF was that?

I love that Sam's all "How do you know his name is Lautner?" when he knows that Lautner is the werewolf.

OMG, I was wishing that Dean would call him out on that. WISHING SO HARD. (Where was Anya when I needed her?) And hahahahaha, my first thought with the Zefron and Bieber line was "Really? Ben's into that?"

I wish we'd had more vamp!Dean.

....now I want to add to that series with vamp!Dean and vamp!Sam. Hmmm...

AHAHAHA. SAY IT. ASSHOLE. Love it.

Yeah I don't see Ben into either. He was all YEAAAAAAAH AC/DC before, so. It's like that time Dean referenced Juno, writers are just throwing shit in for laughs. :||||

YESSSSSS.

Late comment is late, but I actually JUST got around to watching the ep, and I kinda need to vent lol.

I am REALLY hoping that Sam is... not Sam. Like maybe he's losing time? Although then the question becoes who's taking over when Sam's off in la-la-land? I have no clue, but there'd better be a good explanation. Or just any expalanation would be awesome at this point, come to think.

DEAN IS BI. The writers will never convince me otherwise. *nods resolutely*

The guy in the vision wasn't Joshua, but he did play a Cylon on Battlestar Galactica. Which is all KINDS of lulzy to me, especially if he turns out to be the Alpha. XD

Hm, I guess we learned the ansewr to that one. :/ But at least we have a partial explanation.

I AGREE. He really just meant creepy guys in seedy alley ways. (which actually still elimantes some fun possibilites but I'm okay with that.

He wasn't? HMM. I guess he just looked familiar because he was Number Four?

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