meh.

[alwaysenduphere]

So I missed the first five minutes due to Lee being ass about the tv controller and well, being wrapped up in Plants Vs. Zombies. (I'd recovered from my addiction once, why oh why did I go back. SO MUCH FUN IN CO-OP MODE THOUGH.)

There are a lot of negative opinions behind this cut.


I never thought I'd be the one saying I think I'm done with this show. :/

Biggest problems: Predictability and PACING. So obviously new writers, it was ridiculous. Especially when Veritas captured them, and instead of a commercial break, it just faded to black and then came back with them tied up. A better writer would've figured out a way to fit their act breaks to the commercials. Plus the whole episode was just rather boring and slow.

Bobby's little bit where he told the truth was pretty much the highlight for me. "Did I ever tell you my first girlfriend was a-" LOL. Though I did enjoy what Dean said to Veritas, heart-breaking and OH POOR D:EAN as it was, it does seem like what he would think, with the low self-esteem he has.

I'm pissed about the way they're ending Dean and Lisa, if this is the end, but at least satisfied that we got to see that final conversation, that Lisa called back, and they didn't just LEAVE it with her not answering his calls.

Brett figured Sam would be immune to Veritas, just like he'd been immune to pretty much everything else in life (Croatoan, Lilith) but I wanted to argue that he shouldn't be since he'd been brought back. But unlike Dean, we don't actually know whether or not he's scar-free or whatnot, so I suppose that makes sense.

I still don't fully believe Sam, and his "I need help." I don't think he does, because I don't think he cares. Because...

Like 3/4 of fandom predicted, shockingly (my sarcasm can you feel it), Sam doesn't have a soul. It's all about the soul. He's Spike, essentially.

Remember when this show used to shock and surprise us?

So please, people that liked this episode, help me see what you liked so I feel like watching next week.

Comments

[slayerkate.livejournal.com]

About Dean and Lisa - I called it last week, so that made me happy.

I was watching season one earlier, and this episode felt more like season one, except that it can't really be season one. They've come too far to end up back there.

I've read other comments already. I don't think that Sam is like Spike. I don't think he needs to kill. Like season one or two, he's a scared boy that doesn't know what's going on with himself, or why. It doesn't mean it was right for him to lie, but I can see why he did it.

I think someone or something brought Sam back. I'm not sure what, though. I think we'll find out more in December.

[alwaysenduphere.livejournal.com]

I agree, with the whole motw and the set-up it was more S1, but it just didn't have the quality, you know? the writing, the direction, and yeah, the characters have just changed too much to try and call back that feeling too much.

But without a soul, can he even BE scared? But yeah, I think I take back what I said about Spike. Because Spike was conscious of his decisions whether they were good or bad, and I don't think Sam is.

I wonder how long it'll drag out.

[slayerkate.livejournal.com]

I'm still waiting for somebody to make a fanvid of Dean set to Violence Fetish by Disturbed. This ep had good scenes for it.

/random

I don't think Sam really feels "nothing."
Neither did Buffy. She claimed to feel nothing, but then she went on to say that the only time she felt something was when she was with Spike, and she was disgusted with herself. But that's not the same as being emotionless.
Sam was smiling as Dean was turned. You don't smile when you're blank. He was happy.

[alwaysenduphere.livejournal.com]

Huh. Dunno that song. But you should message Loki or another vid maker and suggest it to them. :P I mention her b/c I know she doesn't take requests, so to speak, but she does listen to songs people send her and lots of times uses them for vids. IDK how many people send her shit though since she's kinda popular.

But Buffy THOUGHT she'd come back wrong, was trying to figure out why. Sam...Sam says he needs help but I just don't think he cares. I think he prefers it this way because it makes him a better hunter. And THAT's why he was smiling, because Dean getting bitten was a way to hunt something down.